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I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

schreckman

Hello everyone, I am new to this group and to saving the planet.  I had this idea yesterday of how I could eliminate my commute all together.  I am selling may carbon footprint on Ebay.  I hope you can all support my idea and help promote this.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120274567779

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Submitted by schreckman on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 20:56.

athena
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

How about looking for someone to car pool with and cut your emmissions in half?  Start a community sustainability group and pool resources to set up a solar generator or create a vegetable garden just for the fun of it.  Visit some of the other local groups who are building electric cars, etc.  You just might find a use for your special skill set and start a whole new carreer.


Tue, 07/22/2008 - 16:11

WendyWaterWoman
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Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

Yes, unfortunately I encountered the same tone and lack of openness when I got here.

Welcome, schreckman. Thanks for doing something instead of nothing. Every little bit helps.

ctyankee's steam valve needs a regulator, IMHO. It would be nice to be WELCOMED to the site instead of feeling attacked from the get-go. 

Good vocabulary and knowledge, ctyankee, but a bad attitude.


Fri, 07/18/2008 - 22:13

ctyankee
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

Hi Wendy,

  Sorry for being the most blunt & direct person around.  I never volunteered for the hospitality committee, in a sense I work security.  You  see me as the self appointedarbiter of what passes and what gets flamed...  In a way I am' let me tell you why.

  Every one is entitled to their opinion, but no one is entitled to their own facts.  There is so much dis-information out there that it's hard for many folks to seperate wheat from chaff.  I spray the chaff with fluorescent orange!

  Some folks will still choose not the see the broghtly colored warnings.  There is little more I can or am willing to do at that point.  If I recall you objected to the bright coating, and after a few exchanges I thought I helped to wash off some of that multi-colored stain.

  I may remain unconvinced, but there was enough truth in what you were claiming that I no longer felt you were simpply tring toscam.  You're selling a product.

  In the case of e-bay man here... He didn't even know what a ton of CO2 is worth.  Further, he didn't even know how to compute his footprint.  His plan was to replace a lifetime of potential earninge for what?  His promise to stop consuming/polluting?  If it was his attempt at a joke, he could have done a little better.  If a comedian stands up and bombs, he better be ready for some heckling from the audience. I didn't think we were being told any jokes.

  Well, that's it.  I'll apologize for blunt and/or abrasive, but I won't change.  I'm all for the Green movement, and I do welcome folks that have something to say.  I do expect the dialog to be somewhat intelligent.  I wish more people would ask questions when they do not know or do not understand.  Instead we attract charlatans that 'shill' for fraudsters.

  I've been doing this for a long time, and (knock on wood) have yet to be proven wrong!  15 years and not one single thing I've tarred has ever gone away mad and come back to demonstrate a silver lining.  Sure there have been many that have answered back and backed their claims with science and some form of proof that what they have is real.  Even the worst of them; the 'Brown's Gas generators' can be used an oxy-hydrogen torches *as they were designed to be* -- but not as miracle energy sources!

Enjoy the heat! (94 F, 77 dew point at Norwalk CT)


Sat, 07/19/2008 - 11:06

WendyWaterWoman
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Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

Your knowledge and intent for this forum are appreciated. My point is that instead of asking questions yourself when you do not have all the facts, you automatically jump to conclusions about the veracity of the poster's information including sarcastic name calling.

In a way, you remind me of Dr. Laura. She has a lot of good information to relay, but she does so by attacking people instead of trying to educate them. This does, in my opinion, nothing to encourage people to visit here and learn more about green living. This, in fact, scares people off. If the point is to spread good information and have discussions about what green really means or the best choices for green living, turing it into a elite shooting gallery for the uneducated doesn't really help.

There are of course times when people are simply unethical rather than uneducated. But to assume a lack of ethics instead of coming from an innocent until proven guilty position makes this forum much less welcoming.

Maybe we need a hospitality committee!

Beautiful day here, actually...84 sunny and a slight breeze.

 


Sat, 07/19/2008 - 12:54

athena
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

I think you will have better luck selling Al Gore's carbon footprint, or maybe Dr. Suzuki's.

If you can get them to stand in copy toner and walk across your prints I think you will have a winner.  Sprayed with sealer and properly autographed and framed is as good as any of the crap people hang on their walls.

Great idea - maybe there's a market for prints of prints. 


Thu, 07/17/2008 - 18:53

Jeff Schultz
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

Could you please enlighten me? How does selling something equivalent to Jesus' image on bread, raise awareness?

Doesn't do much for this forum I assure you! What the?

Do your part, nothing ever comes easy.


Tue, 06/24/2008 - 16:22

ctyankee
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

You've got it backwards!  And you're math is bad... You're 402.5 tons might be worth $2,12.50  -- What's with the $100,000 opening bid?  Fooey!

If someone was foolish enough to buy what' you're offering I'd imagine they'd demand a lifetime of proof, I would. 

You should be buying carbon offsets.  So we'll just call you're "offer" a bad joke.  

I've always found novel e-bay ideas to be amusing, but this one is offensive on any number of points. 

You want to make a difference?  Change your lifestyle.  You want something (in)tangable to brag about?  Buy some ECO-CO2 tags for $5/ton!


Thu, 06/19/2008 - 07:41

schreckman
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

So much for first impressions, is everyone here as friendly as you? What does a eco-co2 tag do exactly?  I can see why you do not understand my math, what kind of a number is 2,12.50??  Are you saying by me paying 2200 bucks it would offset 23 years of abuse on the environment?  How does that work.  Like I said I am new here, and I am trying to change my lifestyle. 


Thu, 06/19/2008 - 19:04

ctyankee
Re: I am selling my carbon footprint to promote awareness

Everyone was a noob once, I just get steamed when a 1st time poster
puts up some nonsensical, sensational, uber-fantastic tripe on their
first post.  Netiquete 101 says -- bad move! 

I guess you could call me the mis-information alert warning system.  Friendly isn't part of the job description. (sorry)

An ECO-CO2 is pretty much what  you're trying to sell, awareness.  But while you're trying to sell a lifetime of earnings your 'career' if I get the gist... An ECO-CO2 is just that, the actual value of 1 metric ton of CO2 ~ $5.00

The math... well you didn't show your work, so I can't grade the problem.  But 400 tons might be a year of emissions... not a lifetime; at least we agree on that.

Aside from the e-bay novelty, why would anyone buy your lifetime? Why feed, house & clothe you? OK enough of that...

You want to make a difference.  Start with small steps, the low-fruit from the FAQ.  Turn down the thermostat in winter, use a fan in summer instead of AC; use CFL's where appropriate, use lower wattage bulbs otherwise.  Keep your car well tuned, tires inflated, trunk empty.  Fly less, ride a bicycle, buy local produce, eat less meat... the options are limitless.

Just don't go overboard!  If you try to make all the changes at once, you'll get your mind blown, it's natural.  You'll likely discover that you can save 50% before you even start to notice the pinch.  It'll take a little getting used to, but quality of life really won't suffer.

One more thing.  As prices rise and stress sets in the loonies & wackos come out of the woodwork.  The number of scam and nonsense  ideas goes up exponentially.  Keep your wits about you.  If something sounds too good to be true, it is.


Fri, 06/20/2008 - 06:34