Re: Clean Water and a Healthy Planet

OK fine, I hope you sell a million units.  /sarcasm off

 I'll go back to my 1st post:

nothing added + nothing taken away = nothing accomplished.

So which is it you use activated carbon or you don't? 

You don't precipitate the minerals, yet if the water boils it still creates scale.  How does the oxygen "know" which minerals that are already in their lowest energy state are to be oxidized?

We can agree that chloramines are nasty by-products of chlorination. 

The WHO is one of those ultra socialist propaganda machines... Please don't be so naive as to think they're not discussing the 3rd world.  Even though it doesn't say "3rd world" the document drips with 3rd world problems, sorry, no other conclusion is possible there. 

Cu tasting 101 or how long can you suckle a penny?  First let's agree that 1.0 mg/liter == 1 PPM (part per million).  According to the study, (done in Chile BTW, perhaps not truly 3rd world, but parts are close)  50% detected Cu+2 ion (sulfate, chloride) in essentially pure water... 50%  Untrained tasters...  oh so no toxic levels of copper in the bulk water, but 0.4 ppm is well within my level of taste threshold, but I'm not gonna buy one so again that's not important.

Can I do your homework? No, I won't.  But I did point out that the units on a primary claim are ridiculous... It could be a typo because it's off by 2-3 orders of magnitude.  But if the "science" is that shoddy that a typo of 203 orders of magnitude can slip through I have to question *all* of the claims.  

What of you actually put 40 PPM of Cu+2 in the water?  You just went from micro-nutrient & mild biocide into strong emetic, and since the tongue can be desensitized to certain tastes...

All the "gonculator" claims of "Oxygen 1" claims are just as nauseating.  It's called "Hydroxyl ion" OH- and is one of them "free radicals" (not like the deceased Che Guevara seen on so many tee shirts of mall rats).

Look I'm all for clean water, wasting less, conserving more, RO in the US is wasteful, no argument from me. But then it's necessary, it works, and it works well.  Water softeners create brackish waste, yup, they do.  But what do they save in terms of scaled pipes, replaced water heaters, extra detergent use etc???

Look the ECOsmarte folsk seem like that's exactly what they wanted to be eco "smartie"... as in Enron's "smartest men in ht room" claim.

I just have a very hard time keeping quiet when I see someone peddling false hopes to people with needs, real or imaginary, in the hopes of selling something that does virtually nothing.

CTYankee the Engineering Curmudgeon